Just back in from the fans’ forum. Topline findings: we’re in good hands. Roy and Alastair Mackintosh ‘get it’. They’re football people and seem to be in tune with what Fulham is about.
Specifics…
Stadium to head towards 30,000 and beyond over the next two years, talked about redevelopment of the Riverside and Hammy Ends.
Goal music is the subject of focus groups at the moment. The good news here is that Alastair Mackintosh seems, reading between the lines (there’s a lot of this), to be against the idea as well. He made some commment about kids liking it, but also that he’d never had this at Man City and that he’d like fans to be able to make their own atmosphere. Everyone seemed pleased about the atmosphere at the Cottage, so….
Er… Tom Watt read out my question about Reading last year, specifically, did the players suddenly play well because it looked like they were relegated and had nothing to lose. Roy made it clear that this was not the case, and talked about how the team just kept on playing as they always do. Later in the evening he talked about football matches being unpredictable buggers, and all you can do is prepare the team mentally and physically and go from there. His quote, I think, was “I’m not a gambling man, but if I was I wouldn’t bet on football matches”.
Other things: Someone asked why Hangeland doesn’t always pick up the tall forward. Hodgson said that Brede and Aaron like it the way they are with the left-right thing and prefer to stay that way. Roy conceded that sometimes against the likes of Peter Crouch you have to accept that you won’t win all the headers, so you have to focus on other things like getting in front of him, and focusing on the second ball.
Someone else asked about backup at centre-back, and we got an interesting response about how the sort of calibre player we wanted would have cost too much (fee plus wages), even for some loan options. It’s a hard balancing act, getting someone in to be a backup to a first choice pairing, and it sounds like Roy just wasn’t able to land someone who ticked all his boxes. He was quite dismissive of Adrian Leijer’s future, but mentioned Chris Baird (who he conceded was more of an Aaron Hughes than a Brede Hangeland) and also reminded people that John Paintsil plays centre-back too.
Someone asked about Seol’s presence in the team, and Roy was straight back saying that he thought Seol was unlucky to be dropped after two good performances against Hull and Arsenal. Fair enough.
He also praised Clint Dempsey a couple of times, but jokingly said that he and Clint were often at loggerheads, Clint being a good player, but thinking he’s a *very* good player. This was half tongue in cheek, for all those taking it too literally.
I stammered out something about whether he’d always played a passing game or whether he’d done so because he’d inherited midfielders who pass and don’t tackle. He replied that he had. I had a part 2, about the role of Andreasen or Etuhu, but had at this point frozen and failed to ask that question.
He was quite down on the state of the academy, but made the important point that managers aren’t going to look to bring on 15 year olds because most managers will be out of a job before these players are relevant to the club. Which is not to say that he’s not doing much – he is – but I now see why we have to be practical about these things. He said that our academy has been about bringing on local kids, but that there wasn’t the talent there that he’d want to see. He did single out Wayne Brown and Rob Milsom, but nothing much more. Had I been bold I’d have asked about Laribi and Moscatiello, but the cat was still elsewhere with my tongue.
So that’s about that. I’ve probably forgotten a lot, but hey ho. He told a Tommy Cooper joke and an anecdote about Frank Sinatra, and I got him to sign a copy of “Schultz” by JP Donleavy (“expect the worst, and that’s what you’ll get, only it will be much worse”, quoted in a press conference before the Reading game last year, and now a treasured possession). He is apparantly a big Donleavy fan and is re-reading his books. Needless to say, I smiled like an idiot at this point and offered nothing useful in return.
I took the opportunity to nip out by the pitch:

Wish I’d taken a camera now (these were on the mobile), but hey.




Some interesting stuff here, a good read. Nice to see a manager open and honest enough to speak frankly with the fans. Ive always been a fan of Hodgson. Also intriguing to read the comments about the academy and managers´ increasing lack of time to nurture young players. Good luck this season.
Comment by Jon — September 18, 2008 @ 11:07 pm |
Very interesting insight into the club.
One question, when you say Roy was dismissive of Adrian Leijer’s future, am I right in reading in that as Roy doesn’t see him having much of a future at the club? Or is it that he doesn’t see him going anywhere?
The talk we were hearing back here in Oz when Roy first came on board was that he was a big wrap for Ado and talked him out of going on loan. So it would be disappointing from an Aussie standpoint if he hadn’t come on since then as he’s regarded as one of the next in line to take over at Centre Half a few years down the track
Comment by Scotty — September 19, 2008 @ 1:08 am |
yeah, i didn’t really like the hodgson appointment at first… and i was really antsy for results, so when he didn’t come in beating the world, i was unimpressed…
but, the more i read him… more i started to see his influence on the team, i was won over. he really is an eloquent speaker and a well learned manager… in terms of insight and rationality, i dont think i’ve ever heard a better man in the game.
Comment by El Steve — September 19, 2008 @ 2:40 am |
Rich, thanks for writing this up and adding your perspective and admitting to your nervousness. This stuff is great no matter where you live but when you live as far away from Craven Cottage as I do, it make you feel like you a little closer to the club.
Comment by RR — September 19, 2008 @ 5:06 am |
The Leijer thing was just… what did he say? That he went away to the Olympics, didn’t play, came back overweight, said “he’s a nice lad, and one doesn’t like to be too dismissive, but…”, don’t know, just didn’t seem to rate him. That’s the thing, any player he inherited he is under no obligation to use or want really, and it struck me that Leijer is probably not of the quality that Roy’s after.
Comment by weltmeisterclaude — September 19, 2008 @ 6:12 am |
Thanks for this Rich – great summary.
Comment by Chopper — September 19, 2008 @ 10:40 am |
Great stuff as usual Rich – you are a legend getting Roy to sign your book!
Sorry not to reply to your mobile messages recently but have had some difficulties with my freakin phone…As you know, it’s hardly top of the range.
Comment by Matthew — September 19, 2008 @ 10:51 am |
Much appreciated. Weird thing with Leijer is that last season, I recall Roy stating that he didn’t want to send him out on loan due to potential first-team obligations. He must have wanted to take a longer look at Leijer.
Great question about the passing game, and I like Roy’s answer. Playing to your team’s strengths is always a good thing.
Comment by Colin — September 19, 2008 @ 1:00 pm |
Great stuff, Rich.
It’s kind of funny when you hear the press lament that they are no good English managers. Hodgson doesn’t even enter into their analysis, but if our good form continues, he should start getting the credit he deserves.
Comment by George H — September 19, 2008 @ 2:12 pm |
Roy raised a good point about managers bringing on teenage prospects – what’s the point of bringing in a sixteen year old with a great future if you might not be there by the time the kid is nineteen? On the other hand, that combination of job security and foresight has served Arsene Wenger incredibly well.
Comment by Josh — September 19, 2008 @ 4:39 pm |
it takes a lot of courage to take the long view when the life expectancy of a manager — and a board for that matter — is contracting almost daily. Every pound you spend on the academy and the development of U-15, U-17, U-21 players is a pount you DON’T spend on the quality of your first team squad — and it is only the performance of that first-team squad that will keep you hired or get you fired.
Add that to the fact that English players are so expensive, it is logical to go after Africans, Asians, and Americans and just ignore the academy model. As Josh pointed out, Arsenal, Middlesboro, and West Ham are about the only from-the-ground-up programs with any sustained success. In the 60s and 70s, Burnley, Leeds, and Crewe Alexandra all turned tidy profits and maintained relatively lofty league positions on the backs of the 17 and 18-year-olds they turned out like clockwork. Crewe still maintains that reputation, but as for Leeds and Burnley … .
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