Jonathan Greening was on our radar for some time over the summer, and when he eventually arrived, on a poorly disguised loan agreement (he’s ours after the season), some were concerned that we had paid too much for an ageing player with no re-sale value.
For one thing, re-sale value is nice, but how often do we actually find players we can sell on for big money these days? The next Saha is probably at Arsenal already, and if he’s not, he’s going to cost big money. Roy Hodgson seems to value a degree of certainty in most of his signings, so this kind of speculative “high upside” player doesn’t seem likely to head our way any time soon (unless it’s via the youth setup, which is another discussion).
Jon Greening was surely signed as a Premier League ready (Greening has, since 2002, over 150 Premier League games to his name) squad man. The sort of player who is good enough to slot in, but not so good that he will demand to play every week. I’m sure Hodgson saw someone who could slot in quickly, do a job, and add to the squad. And it seems to have worked.
I’ve pulled off his last four chalkboards, as well as those of Danny Murphy:
Greening:
What we see there is someone playing Roy’s conservative midfield plan. We know that Hodgson plays two forwards, then expects his wide men to get into the area, with width from the full-backs. This places less emphasis on the central midfielders to attack, and frequently you’ll see our midfield pair sit in the middle third of the pitch all game. This is perfectly illustrated above: Greening’s playing a very safe game, holding a position, keeping the ball moving and not doing anything risky.
Now Murphy:
It’s a slightly more aggressive version of the same thing. We see two home performances when we dictated the game in the middle of the park, and that, I think, is what Murphy offers over Greening. He’s operating slightly further forward and playing a few more attacking passes. It must be noted that few of them are really making much happen, but people have to respect Murphy’s passing: if they stand off he can pick them apart, so they have to close him down which means they risk losing shape. With a player of lesser ability it’s easier for an opposing midfield to sit off and hold their shape.
It places greater emphasis on our wide men, and this is where things have come together nicely. With Bobby Zamora’s good form coinciding nicely with Duff and Dempsey’s excellent play, we now see a much different attacking look than we did last year, especially with Joe Kamara playing.
A year ago we had Zamora and Johnson, with uncertainty out wide (Davies injured, Gera finding his feet, Dempsey not yet established as he is now), so there was much more of an onus on our central midfield pairing to make things happen. Bullard tried – how he tried! – but it was much easier to defend against. Now the work of the wide men cutting inside, playing off Zamora, is working a treat. Joe Kamara brings expert unpredictability to the mix too. Again: it’s a different look, but it’s another dimension, an evolution. We do miss Murphy, but we don’t suffer particularly by employing Jon Greening in the middle of the pitch. As we see above, he’s more than capable of taking the ball and moving it around. He’s sound defensively and can – as the assist at City showed – provide a good cross when he needs to.
All of which is a long-winded way to say that he’s been decent value and a good signing. He’s not an exciting signing, but I think Roy will be very pleased with how he has settled in.





I guess a lot of us probably often underestimate the difficulty of finding a player (like Greening) who’s good enough to play some games in the Premier League, but who isn’t so good/established/arrogant that he either won’t sign on to a limited role, or (potentially worse) will sign and then be a headache for the manager.
Comment by Josh — November 9, 2009 @ 9:58 pm |
I disagree. I see a lot more than a slight difference here. In those charts Greening has played a sum total of two truly forward passes from inside the opposing team’s half. At a rough estimate, Murphy played 22. This is a different, more defensive role, more akin to what Murphy was doing while Bullard was in the team. I bet that his graphs from that time would show that.
So if we’re an ordinarily defensive team now playing with two sideways and backwards passing defensive midfielders how is it that we seem more open in attack of late than we did in the past. Five words:
Damien Duff and Diomansy Kamara.
If Murphy come back and Kamara doesn’t get dropped in favour of Johnson, we’re going to seriously tear some teams apart.
Comment by rjbiii — November 9, 2009 @ 11:01 pm |
Oddly enough, Gabriel Marcotti rates Greening as one of our best midfielders. Make of that what you will. Personally, I think he is a decent player, who enables us to keep possession well. However, I would definitely like to see him be a bit more attacking and adventurous with his passing – he has too much talent to pass the ball as if Ray Wilkins was his manager. I sincerely hope though that he has not been signed for £5m.
As for the frontline, Zamora is clearly relishing being the main man to be fed into the channels. Leave AJ to goal-hang for a couple of games, let Zamora do the hard work that he relishes so much, and keep AJ in the penalty area to score whatever comes his way. He is wasted out wide.
Comment by Nick W — November 10, 2009 @ 1:03 am |
The chalkboards demonstrate exactly how he’s been playing and I would assume that that’s to Roy’s instructions and his ability and willingness to do so would have been a major factor in Hodgson wanting him at the club.
Now I don’t take that much notice of opposition players but if you’d asked me about Greening a year or so ago I’d have descibed him as Bullard lite. Essentially an attacking player, frequently using the wings, spraying around long passes and taking sometimes effective shots from outside the area. A busy player who sparks others.
I could be entirely wrong, basing opinions on some highlights from matches half watched, but I suspect that if asked he could effectively play a more attacking role.
If you have 4 or 5 players like Baird, Greening, Davies and Dempsey you are effectively able to cover any combination of injuries/suspension/loss of form etc.
Comment by Tony Gilroy — November 10, 2009 @ 7:31 am |
The interesting thing is that although Greening is seen as more defensive player than Murphy, we seem, at least recently, to be moving the ball forward more quickly and decisively without Murphy. Could it be that other players are taking more responsibility without Danny in the side. So though Greening isn’t providing the equivalent forward moves that Danny provides, other players are.
Comment by Mike H — November 10, 2009 @ 8:23 am |